Comments on: Uri Avnery: Muhammad’s Sword http://www.israeliwatch.com/2006/09/27/uri-avnery-muhammads-sword/ Resisting 60 years of apartheid Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:42:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Yasser http://www.israeliwatch.com/2006/09/27/uri-avnery-muhammads-sword/#comment-86 Yasser Wed, 04 Oct 2006 16:44:34 +0000 http://www.israeliwatch.com/2006/09/27/uri-avnery-muhammads-sword/#comment-86 I really liked your Column a lot and I would like to thank you for standing up for defending the truth. As for David, I think I got your reply, Thanks for asking about My Religion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! While criticism of Religions in general with the intention of reform is something good and to be applauded, the case is different with Islam, from the point of view of a Muslim when you critique Islam, you are basically critiquing God Almighty, by saying oh God, what you send to us doesn’t work anymore, we need to add some human touch to it, and you are not allowed to do so, being a tiny creation of His that can be smashed really easily at any time by Him, on the other hand critiquing of the blunder mistakes of Muslims as individuals is an open game, go ahead and I support you 100%, I my self criticize Muslims day and night. Before you embark in replying to my post let me spend sometime making my case 1- Why criticizing other religions is OK? From a Muslim prospective, other divine religions suffer from two draw backs, first is that fact that they were not meant to be international religions, they were local religions sent to local people in a local community, take for example Judaism, it was meant to be for the children of Israel only and it remains so for the most part. When the followers of these religions decide to go international with it, the religion itself cannot support them and they have to intervene to amend it to fit the new areas that they are reaching. secondly, these religions were tampered with, they are not Authentic anymore, people had changed them to fit their desires, example of that is in Christianity, if you look at the bible, you have many editions is many churches throughout history, it is man made for the most part (just look into the contradictions and scientific mistakes in the Bible) For these reasons Man needs to amend and rectify these religions 2- Why this doesn’t apply to ISLAM? Well for a simple reason, from the point of view of Muslims this is the final revelation from God, it is designed to be international, it cannot be changed because all the original Holy text is kept and can be used at any time. In reality Islam has two types of Rulings that make it immortal and cannot be overtaken by any culture or other...... a- God revealed rulings and these are fixed, wrote in stone type cannot change and will not change b- Processed Rulings and these are Rulings that have been processed and issued by scholars based on general principles that are built in in Islam, these Rulings change according to time and place in accordance with the general principles of Islam, and according to the needs of the society, this is why Islam was very successful in reaching out to many cultures, just examine the world map and see how Islam spread from SPAIN to INDIA with all the diversity of people involved I hope you kind of got an answer to your question, and thanks for asking about my Religion I really liked your Column a lot and I would like to thank you for standing up for defending the truth.
As for David, I think I got your reply, Thanks for asking about My Religion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
While criticism of Religions in general with the intention of reform is something good and to be applauded, the case is different with Islam, from the point of view of a Muslim when you critique Islam, you are basically critiquing God Almighty, by saying oh God, what you send to us doesn’t work anymore, we need to add some human touch to it, and you are not allowed to do so, being a tiny creation of His that can be smashed really easily at any time by Him, on the other hand critiquing of the blunder mistakes of Muslims as individuals is an open game, go ahead and I support you 100%, I my self criticize Muslims day and night.

Before you embark in replying to my post let me spend sometime making my case
1- Why criticizing other religions is OK?

From a Muslim prospective, other divine religions suffer from two draw backs, first is that fact that they were not meant to be international religions, they were local religions sent to local people in a local community, take for example Judaism, it was meant to be for the children of Israel only and it remains so for the most part. When the followers of these religions decide to go international with it, the religion itself cannot support them and they have to intervene to amend it to fit the new areas that they are reaching. secondly, these religions were tampered with, they are not Authentic anymore, people had changed them to fit their desires, example of that is in Christianity, if you look at the bible, you have many editions is many churches throughout history, it is man made for the most part (just look into the contradictions and scientific mistakes in the Bible)
For these reasons Man needs to amend and rectify these religions

2- Why this doesn’t apply to ISLAM?
Well for a simple reason, from the point of view of Muslims this is the final revelation from God, it is designed to be international, it cannot be changed because all the original Holy text is kept and can be used at any time. In reality Islam has two types of Rulings that make it immortal and cannot be overtaken by any culture or other……
a- God revealed rulings and these are fixed, wrote in stone type cannot change and will not change
b- Processed Rulings and these are Rulings that have been processed and issued by scholars based on general principles that are built in in Islam, these Rulings change according to time and place in accordance with the general principles of Islam, and according to the needs of the society, this is why Islam was very successful in reaching out to many cultures, just examine the world map and see how Islam spread from SPAIN to INDIA with all the diversity of people involved

I hope you kind of got an answer to your question, and thanks for asking about my Religion

]]> By: David http://www.israeliwatch.com/2006/09/27/uri-avnery-muhammads-sword/#comment-65 David Wed, 27 Sep 2006 17:31:38 +0000 http://www.israeliwatch.com/2006/09/27/uri-avnery-muhammads-sword/#comment-65 I'm not an expert on Islamic history or theology, but I have read that at there were some massacres, and that people did convert to Islam after witnessing them. But that's not what I really want to discuss. Christianity has examined its worst offenses. Any number of history, religion, and theology courses have taken on these subjects. You can go to any book store or library and get critiques of religion. I've not seen many criticisms of Islam by a Muslim. I've asked the following question on a number of blogs: What is a criticism of Islam that is legitimate? The only responses I get are along the lines of: What is a legitimate criticism of Christianity? So, before anybody responds, there are many criticisms of Christianity that are legitimate. There are many criticisms of religion in general that are tolerated in western societies. So I'll ask again: What is a criticism of Islam that is legitimate? I’m not an expert on Islamic history or theology, but I have read that at there were some massacres, and that people did convert to Islam after witnessing them. But that’s not what I really want to discuss.

Christianity has examined its worst offenses. Any number of history, religion, and theology courses have taken on these subjects. You can go to any book store or library and get critiques of religion. I’ve not seen many criticisms of Islam by a Muslim.

I’ve asked the following question on a number of blogs:

What is a criticism of Islam that is legitimate?

The only responses I get are along the lines of: What is a legitimate criticism of Christianity? So, before anybody responds, there are many criticisms of Christianity that are legitimate. There are many criticisms of religion in general that are tolerated in western societies.

So I’ll ask again:

What is a criticism of Islam that is legitimate?

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